Thursday, August 18, 2005


The body of Jean Charles de Menezes of Brazil lies in a London Underground train after he was shot dead by police on July 22, 2005, in this photograph obtained by ITV News on August 16, 2005. (REUTERS/ITV News)
By Elaine Meinel Supkis

America isn't the only place experimenting with drastic police actions that kill people like all those taser deaths of even youths or tasering children and elderly, not to mention shooting the toddler hostage a zillion times when the hostage taker nipped one policeman on the shoulder. This trigger happy problem is well neigh universal.

From Richard in England, we hear an earful about the evolving mess of the shooting of the supposed terrorist in London.
It has now emerged that Mr de Menezes:

* was never properly identified because a police officer was relieving himself at the very moment he was leaving his home;

* was unaware he was being followed;

* was not wearing a heavy padded jacket or belt as reports at the time suggested;

* never ran from the police;

* and did not jump the ticket barrier.

** But the revelation that will prove most uncomfortable for Scotland Yard was that the 27-year-old electrician had already been restrained by a surveillance officer before being shot seven times in the head and once in the shoulder.
Indeed, as information sloughs off the shedding beast, it gets only worse and worse. From the Guardian:
Britain's top police officer, the Scotland Yard commissioner Sir Ian Blair, attempted to stop an independent external investigation into the shooting of a young Brazilian mistaken for a suicide bomber, it emerged yesterday.

Sir Ian wrote to John Gieve, the permanent secretary at the Home Office, on July 22, the morning Jean Charles de Menezes was shot at short range on the London tube. The commissioner argued for an internal inquiry into the killing on the grounds that the ongoing anti-terrorist investigation took precedence over any independent look into his death.
Most internal investigations are usually white washes, note how DC handled the 9/11 mess. It should be obvious now that one can't investigate one's self. There is a conflict of interest here. This is why all things must be outsourced. If we let the Chinese investigate 9/11, for example, or the Germans, even better, maybe we would have seen some hard hitting truths.

Of course, the Chinese would conclude shooting the top officials who allowed this attack to succeed would be the solution. Obviously, our leaders wouldn't want that!

Back to Britain, from This Old Brit's self:
(Refering to the breaking news that the policeman watching the terrorist house went off to take a piss and mixed up who left the building) Within the last few minutes - from UK's ITN NEWS.

The guy who was "relieving himself" -- while filming the premises - was "A SOLDIER, ON LOAN TO THE POLICE"

I rest my case. A Soldier? Yeah. But they don't say which regiment. They don't bloody well need too. Some of us have known all along - S. A. S.

And incidentally, the poster who commented on my original piece[ when I claimed within hours of the killing that the SAS were responsible] telling me that although I was a good writer ----- I had started to sound like a loony.

An apology would be nice, if you're still around and read this.
Usually, Richard is right on the nose, analyzing things going on in his own country. Heck, here, too.

It is understandable that the police and military after any terrorist attacks, will be edgy. But their sole job is to protect innocent civilians and and any failure in this matter is serious. We don't need to be terrorized by our protectors when terrorists are doing it too. This is why our mission failed in Iraq. Every time terrorists attack our troops, they retaliate by butchering all and sundry in the neighborhood. We then invade all the nearby homes and take away any young men and torture and sexually humiliate them and then we wonder why four more soldiers were blown up and killed today!

This downward spiral was fed by the fact that no one in charge in Iraq has been held responsible for the misdeeds and murders. Even the soldiers who threw two innocent young men into the river and drowned one of them just for sport were let off with a slap on the wrist. Not to mention all the torture generals getting off scot free!

From the No Spin Zone:

Document 1: State Department cable, Future of Iraq Expert Working Groups, July 8, 2002

State Department officials held planning meetings with "free Iraqis"-described as "Iraqis who live outside Iraq or in northern Iraq"-as early as April 2002, according to this document. Directed to embassy posts in several allied countries, the State Department cable announces the establishment of 15 "Future of Iraq Project" working groups to prepare for the transition to a post-Saddam Hussein Iraq, adding that priority subjects had been identified at a "planning meeting with Iraqis on April 9-10."
Seems the "planning" was for us to investigate human rights violations after a "regime change" and then punish the guilty. Well, we now know who is guilty and of course, we won't see any of these people punished. This is why the charade of the Saddam trials can't go forwards. In a country falling into chaos, you can't exactly try someone for being nasty if everyone is being very nasty indeed right now.

There is no authority left since authority comes with a moral charge and we don't want to be moral, we just want everyone to obey us.

The British ruled this way for centuries which was what we were supposed to be rebelling against back in 1776. The deal always is, with empires, let the rulers run amock in distant places, they just can't do it at home. Well, the chickens always come home to roost and the fighting always ends up in the captitals of the empires. This is part of the dynamic of all empires and is why they don't last forever.

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